anyone turboed ka?

[PyROO]

just wondering.... has anyone around here turboed there ka?????
and if so is it even worth it
in comparison to just swapping an sr20?????
because i got that turbo in the for sale section
and in the near future i was maybe thinking i could do a cheap little turbo set up....

[Jserman]

read on

http://www.ka-t.org/

personally I think a turbo KA is cooler then an SR

[MattCHEW]

dude its completely subjective. Do what you want, one is not better than the other.

[PyROO]

that ka-t site is pretty bad ass
hey i just wanna see what people think?
forums are for sharing ideas? right?

[spastik]

turbos are always lots of fun. love the feel of them spooling :)

[MattCHEW]

that ka-t site is pretty bad ass
hey i just wanna see what people think?
forums are for sharing ideas? right?

You are correct im just saying do your research decide what you like and roll with it...im sure you probably know but jump on zilvia.net there are so many threads about this stuff

[nick]

read on

http://www.ka-t.org/

personally I think a turbo KA is cooler then an SR


x2

A turbo Ka has a lot on its side. A little extra displacement makes spool easier and its broad torque in a light car would be really fun for a daily driver.

[PyROO]

yeah
it would be pretty sweet
having a turboed ka and a daily driver
id probably have to do an engine rebuild before i even think about slapping a turbo on there though haha

[zenkiderek]

it looks like i'm going ka-t. ka-t is nice, so is zilvia, but during the past week i have learned more about ka/ka-t's on nico>240sx>ka-t section than any where else.

pm me if you want some info on specific things, general things, and/or the set up i'm looking into.

[zenkiderek]

^^^ that made me sound like i think i'm the KA-T guru. Which is not the case, I've just been researching like mad these past few days so I know where to find most of the info needed.

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zeroforum?id=170

[Excessfc]

I did the turbo kit on the black S14 when Surbir still owned it (pughs), it was pretty burly until it broke a ring land from too much timing. Surbir still has a bunch of leftover KA-T stuff from that if anyone gets serious.

[zenkiderek]

Is he on here? I'd like to see what he has. Did he not retard his timing at all?

[Jserman]

Is he on here? I'd like to see what he has. Did he not retard his timing at all?

no he isn't

[zenkiderek]

can someone pm me his email?

[Excessfc]

We pulled timing, I just was living in Sacramento when we turboed it, and never got up here to really do some tuning other than quick AFR's when we switched it to the AEM.

He was driving on a basemap from someone on i think the KA-T forum, which was mostly okay, but not great. I believe we over boosted it for the timing and afrs a bit when road tuning one day. A month later he was cruising on the freeway for a while by the outlets and it decided it wanted to explode.

He is not on any of the forums really, but I have full brokerage rights on his stuff, we talked about it last Thursday actually.

The list off the top of my head is:
An AEM EMS
Spearco FMIC
Turbonetics Log Turbo Manifold
DE head
DE Block crank etc
97 Transmission
Lightened flywheel
ACT street strip clutch
2 different billet fuel rails
2 sets of 450ish CC injectors
Cobra MAF
JWT chipped 96 ECU
HKS Twin Power

I will take inventory later this week and get some flicks

[PyROO]

how much do those manifolds run for?
and is there anyone on here who knows how to do a good tune
and retard the timing?
i probably wouldnt have much trouble getting the turbo on the motor with everything running good
its the tuning where i would need someone with a ton of knowledge on this stuff

[PyROO]

http://www.advancedjdmparts.com/product.php?productid=20540&cat=302&page=1

looks beast to me :]

[zenkiderek]

http://www.advancedjdmparts.com/product.php?productid=20540&cat=302&page=1

looks beast to me :]

search for reviews on nico/ka-t/zilvia

[DubstepDave]

that kit looks decent, but i'd try to sell that turbo for way cheap and get a good turbo (garret, turbonetics, precision, holset). money says the turbo in that kit is a cheap ebay turbo that will blow up within 3 months.

[PyROO]

yeah true haha but all those turbos are so spendy!!!

[MacDrizzle]

KA boostys are tough try to find that Toyota Starlet with a KAT it runs 9s or 10s

[zenkiderek]

david's right. all of those cheap turbo kits are NOTORIOUS for blowing seals.
nico has a stickied thread about cheap/ebay/chinese kits.

get a diff turbo and make sure you always use an oil restrictor and a walbro. if you do those things you have about a 50-75% chance of not having major problems within the first year from what i read. make sure to do a compression test and a leak down before thinking about turbo'ing that ka though.

[zenkiderek]

in that thread, one guy says ssac has the best feedback (success stories) out of all the cheap kits.

http://www.ssautochrome.com/level.itml/icOid/1625

still, if you go with a cheap kit, get a quality turbo. used if you have to. you don't want your cheap turbo to throw metal bits into your engine bay.

[MacDrizzle]

would it be stupid to piece together a "kit" if you had a good list of parts you need. I always run across random shit for give away prices but i never had a use for most of it. I'm willing to hunt parts for all you guys i go everywhere.

[PyROO]

ill try and get a list
haha

[Idahos13]

I rather piece together a kit, but thats just me.

[zenkiderek]

http://www.advancedjdmparts.com/product.php?productid=20540&cat=302&page=1

looks beast to me :]

Just found a review on this kit.

"everything minus the turbo and bov are pretty solid. the turbo and bov are a gamble, but cheap to replace(SR turbo, T28, etc...)"

[zenkiderek]

another one:

"That's the kit I have and I have already put 1500 miles on my car running it untuned on an 8:1 fmu"

[zenkiderek]

another:

"I have a JDM Sport t28, it is blowing smoke after less than a month of driving. I beat on it for 1 day of drifting, that was the first time I actually drove it hard. My return line was a little messed up, but never uphill. Oil could have backed up and blown out the seals, but I don't think so. I'm in the market for a legit turbo now.
My JDM Sport FMIC kit however is doing fine. I had to replace a coupler and a few t-bolt clamps, but other than that it fits perfectly.

I did use a .63 restrictor on my feed line."

[Another post by the same guy]

"It doesn't smoke at idle, but when I let off after cruising or anything it smokes. After boosting it smokes really bad when I let off, but it always stops after about 5 seconds of idling again.

My oil return bung and oil pan seal are leaking, so I have to check my level pretty consistently. Doesn't help that t he pan is warped lol. A brand new oem pan got to my house today though so I'm having the return re-worked as well as now the warped issue is obviously not a problem anymore lol."

[PyROO]

yeah i wanna go as cheap as possible on the kit
and then ill get the good quality stuff that really counts like the turbo itself and what not

[DubstepDave]

Seriously, you get what you pay for. Cheap kits are exactly that, cheap. And I'm not talking price either, they will not last.

SSautochrome is SUPER shitty as well. Manifolds crack, and so do the turbos (yes, the exhaust housings on the turbos crack right down casting seam).

It's much better to take a little time and piece together a good quality setup yourself from good reputable used parts and spend a little more $$, then to buy a POS kit and hope it turns out OK.

To get a really good quality setup, I don't think I'd spend less than $2k total, including the manifold, turbo, intercooler and piping, BOV, injectors, and something to tune it properly.

[zenkiderek]

that's why i'm going with a reputable "starter" kit. i don't need much hp or psi for drifting until i take it to tracks so this should be perfect for me. I just want a safe, reliable, low hp set up...... for now.

[MacDrizzle]

If you want low horsepower go NA right Dave! LOL

[PyROO]

so nvm with the whole turbo thing...
an ls1 swap would be the sexier thing to do
and more hp for the money

[MacDrizzle]

run single three inch exhaust, way sleeperish!!!!!!!!!!

[zenkiderek]

as jdm biased as i am, i rode in an ls swapped m3 on a bogus run and that was an amazing experience.

do i approve of such cross-breeding? No.
will it be rad? Yes.

[zenkiderek]

in case you're still looking for a super cheap ka-t set up. this guy seems to have done it right (as far as cheap set ups go)

http://forums.nicoclub.com/zerothread/371430-im-finally-ka-t

grand total of $950 for about 220bhp
not a bad start

[DICKARM]

I knorr about sohc ka-t funnnn, turboPssssh

serious though derek, ka-t. Get a revhard cast manifold (can be found used) they will last longgg time, get some SR purple top injectors (370's) Find a used s15 bb t28, and find an eBay s14 intercooler/pipe kit, get an safc, have an exhaust shop build you a huge exhaust and your done.

Good for around 250ish hp and it's cheap, the torque is the rad part about ka's

[RunninWild]

you 240fags don't know nothin bout torque

[MacDrizzle]

you 240fags don't know nothin bout torque

^^^hahahahahahahahaha!!!!!!!^^^

[nikuman]

I don't think any swaps are viable for a high schooler who can't afford to fix a dent on his car, not to be rude but an ls1 is expensive and the cheapest option is obviously kat.

[zenkiderek]

I knorr about sohc ka-t funnnn, turboPssssh

serious though derek, ka-t. Get a revhard cast manifold (can be found used) they will last longgg time, get some SR purple top injectors (370's) Find a used s15 bb t28, and find an eBay s14 intercooler/pipe kit, get an safc, have an exhaust shop build you a huge exhaust and your done.

Good for around 250ish hp and it's cheap, the torque is the rad part about ka's

that sounds like a super cheap way to go. like $1000-1500. i'll definitely look into it.

need tranny swap first, then probably wheels.

[PyROO]

haha i know :[
i dont have the money for any of this right now
but in the future i plan on it!
especially since football is getting over i can start working and what not

[MacDrizzle]

save up and you can get it done.

[PyROO]

yeah i hope to do a sweet swap to the 240
or im not sure yet but if this guy im talking to goes through on buying my 240 ill just throw all the money into my vr4
the 3000gt is perfectly drivable but im dealing with title issues with it right now
and we are going to small claims court to get it
i don't know we'll see what happens in the next few weeks

[Idahos13]

Don't sell the 240 lol. keep it!

[enigmadsm]

i know this is about 4 months old, but i used to have a ka-t zenki and i plan on turboeing my ka kouki

i had a holset hx35 turbo with 550cc injectors, srt4 3bar map sensor, ghetto ass fmic, tuned with a dtec etc etc etc made 360whp on stock bottom end for 2yrs until it popped.
then with a built bottom end and fixed some of the hack job things done by the previous owner it made 440whp and 425tq on pump gas @18psi.
ended up selling the car but the ka's are great motors to build, or even just run 250-320whp on with an excellent/conservative tune on stock bottom end.

[PyROO]

i really wanna turbo my 240 if i keep it
how much did it run you for your setup?

[enigmadsm]

well, i could probably get a base set up done for 2500 with my main focus being fuel and tuning to keep it safe.

i'd get a holset varient turbo, jgs log manifold, have a shop build an exhaust, ebay fmic, nistune or megasquirt, walboro fuel pump, 550cc injectors, and all the other little nic nacks

it really helps finding used parts that aren't really any less good if used, like a bov or external wastegate etc.

search on ka-t.org classifieds and i'm sure you'll find a lot of what you need.

if you have a single cam though you will have a little more difficulty making the same power