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NoDestiny
10-18-2009, 02:13 PM
Ive got a 70 someodd beetle who's headlight relay is dying. Its model is 411-941-583C and I want to just outright rewire a newer style relay in there since I have handfuls of those laying around and places want up to $50 for a new relay like this one!

Anybody know a good way to do this? I can't find much googling, so hopefully one of you guys know.
DICKARM
10-20-2009, 09:27 AM
Most relays have a little picture of the schematics on the side, just find a new one with the same amperage and follow the schematics. One for a headlight should be pretty simple. I have some schematics drawn up that I'll try to find
NoDestiny
10-20-2009, 09:53 AM
Yeah I saw it on there, but looks like there was a resistor in the line... could be wrong, since it was pretty scuffed up and missing some of the diagram. Does that sound right?
DubstepDave
10-20-2009, 10:03 AM
Any regular newer headlight relay will be fine. There will be a 12v constant input, a ground, and a output, and your "trigger" input from the switch. Super easy to wire in and will probably output more light than with your stock relay if you wire each headlight to a separate relay.
bcool
10-20-2009, 10:18 AM
Weren't some of the old bugs a 6v system?
spazz
10-20-2009, 11:42 AM
66 and older was 6v, ya to get rid of the nos vw part you need 2 relays. When i was doing my baja i just got the part due to making life easier but im sure you can find an install on thesamba.com
NoDestiny
10-26-2009, 12:47 PM
HA! I took apart the relay and found the problem. The spring inside was just too weak to pull the arm all the way back up. Coulnd't figure out a better way, so I just put the last spring coil on the little arm perch instead of the actual loop. Works like a charm ;)

Also, seems the turn signal relay started going out, but I happened to have a Chrylser relay of some sort that fit and worked fine. Pride myself knowing that at least SOME mopar is going into a VW I worked on...

:D
DubstepDave
10-26-2009, 12:54 PM
hahaha, nice. be glad that you don't have a '67 with the one year only turn signal/ flasher relay. i had to do some major work to mine to get it working (lots of soldering and resistor replacement).